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Comments for song "Jagado Dharana"
S Chandrasekar on Friday, December 09, 2011 so Soulful..! Thanks.
s ramani on Sunday, February 05, 2012 very beautiful. thank you Deeps. send me more like this.
s ramani on Sunday, February 05, 2012 very beautiful thank you deeps.send me more like this.
Anika Khan on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 I really need to learn Sanskrit...it is a vital part of South Indian
Classical music.I Know Hindi Bengali in the Indian languages...but, I
guess I have to l,earn the roots of it all.
wizardofrosss on Friday, June 15, 2012 This is Kannada, not Sanskrit.
Anika Khan on Friday, June 15, 2012 I know it's not Sanskrit. I was talking about knowing the roots, just like
if you know Latin almost all European language becomes accessible, same
goes for Sanskrit & the Indian languages.
wizardofrosss on Friday, June 15, 2012 That's a good point. Incidentally, I too have a desire to learn Sanskrit.
Aditya Bholanekar on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 Is this lord Krishna's song??????????????
pradeeps1987 on Thursday, June 28, 2012 This song is in ""KANNADA"" ( One of the South Indian languages !!! )
Jagadodharana aadisidalu Yashoda: Krishna ( The caretaker of World ) is
nurtured by his mother Yashodha :)
Shushanto Bose on Friday, August 17, 2012 What do you call this type of composition? A bhajan?
pradeeps1987 on Friday, August 17, 2012 I agree with you, but Aryan Invasion Theory has been proved false by DNA
test. We were together and we are together :)
Shushanto Bose on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 (2) But if you can't speak Urdu, and your primary aim is to get at Urdu,
then Urdu is perfectly accessible without Sanskrit and thus you should
start with Urdu, before going to its roots in Sanskrit. Only vocabulary is
borrowed from Arabic (in an unintelligent manner), and the learning of
Arabic will be of no use. Once you have learnt Urdu, then if you have an
interest in its roots, you learn Sanskrit...
Shushanto Bose on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 (3)... But this "roots" idea doesn't seem to make much sense. If you want
to learn Sanskrit for its own sake, you do that. Why say you want to learn
the roots of Urdu at all? Urdu is a language. Whether its roots lie in
Sanskrit is of no consequence to speakers of either language (only to those
who spawned the language). The original writers of the Urdu language
completed it. They did not leave any holes that can be bridged with the
learning of Sanskrit. The same goes for English and Latin...
Shushanto Bose on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 (4)... I have heard people say this when I was a child, that they want to
"learn the roots of a language" by learning its mother language. I didn't
give it enough thought at the time, but later realised the concept was
meaningless. Languages are entirely man-made constructs (such as law or
banking) and as such, they have been made in a "complete" manner. If all
the rules of grammar are explained from the fundamentals, and the
vocabulary memorised (however one goes about doing that)...
Shushanto Bose on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 (5)...then you know everything that can be known about the language itself.
If you want to know HOW its originator came up with it, that's a different
matter. And I suspect it would be far more difficult than simply learning
its root language. You said you know Latin, and it helps you to learn
French. Now in that case you have (for whatever reason) already done the
work of learning Latin before you embarked upon French...
Anika Khan on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 Dude I Love that you like to show off that you know stuff! But let me break
the truth to you, you don't. First of all you said that learning Latin is a
waste of time, go do some research. All language professors, teachers and
instructors would agree that knowing Latin helps in learning and
understanding all the other languages that derived from it. Even in English
it really enhances your knowledge.
Anika Khan on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 (2) You yourself talked about influence languages have on each other. That
is the most practical and efficient way to learn a language, that way you
are familiar with some of the terms & it helps you move forward in the
process. And if you don't know I'll tell you Sanskrit has similarities
Greek, Latin & others. Influence is the factor that helped the explorers
identify with this. And who told you I wanted to learn french. Also your
Biology analogy is awful...It doesn't make sense.
Anika Khan on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 (3) And somehow I feel you took offense to my comments. So to let you know,
they were not intended to be offensive and secondly this show off doesn't
work, seeing you've been flagged by people (not me!). And third I kind of
know about languages, not everything but I know. If you are not a language
professor or specialist you should study to be one. I genuinely believe
you'll be awesome at it.
Anika Khan on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 (4) By roots I meant Sanskrit itself, not Sanskrit being Kannada's root or
anything. I hope you won't disagree that Sanskrit is the root of allot of
Asian languages. My statement was about influence all along, not the way
you took it.
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 (1.1) You said that Latin helps you identify with French, which is why I
used French in my example. I never said you wanted to learn French. What's
wrong with the Biology/Medicine analogy? What doesn't make sense? You have
to tell me, I can't guess. Medicine is a function of Biology, Chemistry and
Physics, therefore Biology (taking the most important of the three) is a
necessary but not sufficient prerequisite for Medicine, which is a "social
science", or a practical application of Biology...
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 (1.2) My point was that Latin, on the other hand was NOT that it doesn't
help. I never remotely implied it. My point was that it is not a necessary
prerequisite. You CAN learn French or Spanish without Latin, and perfectly
well. The evidence is in the millions of Spaniards who grow up speaking
Spanish without ever having touched upon Latin. Yes it's pretty evident
that sanskrit has some influence on Greek...Latin is very much derived from
Greek.
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 (1.3)...thus Sanskrit has influence on Latin. Actually to most people the
influence of Sanskrit on Latin seems clearer, since Latin is a more
popularised language, I meant that is because Greek is in the chain. The
originators of Latin knew only (or mainly) Greek. This means that knowing
Greek helps with Latin. It does not mean, however, that the learning of
Latin is hindered due to not knowing Greek. I'm afraid you missed my point
on originator languages. It was not a point about languages...
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 (1.4)...It was a point of logic. It's well described by functions in Maths.
You have to visualize it to get what I mean. {f(x) = a; for all x in X,
where a is an element in A}, and A is a subset of B. Take X to be the
language Latin. Take B to be the language English, where A is some portion
of the language. The function describes that for every item x in Latin, we
learn an item of A (e.g. some word or grammatical concept in English). If
we learn the whole of the Latin language X...
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 (1.5).then we CAN learn the whole of the portion A of the language
English (if we use the function f - this will take computation). But there
is the rest of the language B to learn, for which we may go to other
languages Y and Z. Now forget X and Y and Z, just think of B and its
portion A. Even if we call A the most important part of the language B (say
it's grammar for instance).learning every item of A (e.g. the rules of
grammar), then moving onto learning the rest of B...
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 (1.6)...does EXACTLY the same job as if we had learnt all of X (before
touching upon A), then done the necessary work (described by f) to learn
all of A from it, then moved on to learning the rest of B. Note that the
part about learning the rest of B is not dependent on X at all. A helps,
but X doesn't. So the only task where we have an option is with learning A.
We can either learn A directly, or learn X first to help with A...
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 (1.7) Clearly, the second option is more work, and more importantly that
option has no benefits as compared with the first option. I hope you've
done Maths, as this explanation might be far clearer than it was in words.
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 The premises of the argument are the following: A, B and X are discrete
sets, where every item of every set is comprehensible on its own. There are
no elements in any of the sets that need to be decoded with the use of
elements of any of the other sets.
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 (2.2) I can see how you thought that I took offense. Perhaps I have a
deep-rooted psychological bias against the Northern (Aryan) races. I am a
Bengali. Although we are not like Punjabis, we are much less similar to
South Indians when it comes to roots. But we are relatively non-violent in
comparison with much of India, which is a very violent and prejudiced
nation on the whole. The Bengali language (or Old Bengali) is the first of
the direct descendants of Sanskrit...
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 (2.3) ...which can be classed as a separate language. It came partly
through Prakrit and partly directly through Sanskrit, but if you look at
old Bangla it is really very much a polished Sanskrit. There are a lot of
similarities between Hindi and Bangla. In fact if you know one, the other
comes very easily indeed (if you're willing to put effort in). Hindi is
really the banner language for India and the popularized descendant of
Sanskrit. Even though I love the Hindi language...
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 (2.4)...I have strong objection to people who seem to think it is more
important than other languages. People who speak Tamil as their native
language should not be brainwashed that Hindi is somehow superior. There
has been a lot of prejudice against Southern (or darker) races and castes
throughout India's history, and India can't call itself a nation, let alone
move forward as one, till these barriers are destroyed. And this is FAR
from happening, even in the 21st century.
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 Btw, if you do have difficulty in understanding this explanation.DRAW A
DIAGRAM. Draw circles for X, A and B, with B and X separate, but A within
B. And draw an arrow with the label f from X to A. Then read my explanation
and...think about it. Truth lies in a well. You have to work hard to put
the bucket down deep and then pull it up. Factual information (trivia) is
meaningless without hard logic and rationalisation (or "understanding", as
people call it).
Shushanto Bose on Thursday, August 23, 2012 We are together only in your head. There's racism, casteism, and
discrimination of all kinds every day in India. It involves killing and
maiming men, women and children. Trying to cover it up with optimistic
comments is not going to help anyone, it will only make you feel better.
Brutal reality is the only reality. Indians are some of the most violent
and hateful people on Earth, and have been throughout its history, contrary
to what modern Indians like to think (I am a 24 year old Indian).
Anika Khan on Thursday, August 23, 2012 Well, I'm sure you'll get done with English grammar. I am a Bangali too, so
I know how it feels, actually because of the Bollywood craze this has grown
too much. However I don't deny that Hindi is the Mother tongue of India. I
am from Bangladesh and I speak Bangla, Hindi, Spanish & Latin. For me
Learning languages is a Fun game. I am a true admirer of History,
Literature, Philosophy & Art. Mathematics isn't exactly my forte. There is
only one closest living descendant of Sanskrit.
Anika Khan on Thursday, August 23, 2012 That is along with the descendants of the first humans to migrate from
Africa that is Tamil I believe. And the descendants are found in Tamil
Nadu. The whole historical outlook to languages, civilizations & the
existence of mankind itself fascinates me. I've been doing allot of
research on it. Especially Sanskrit & Prakrit.
Anika Khan on Thursday, August 23, 2012 And coming back to the main point, you said I could just learn Spanish
without learning Latin. I could also just learn Kannada without learning
Sanskrit. But knowing Latin helps you enhance because there are connections
between each other. Likewise learning Sanskrit & Tami will help me enhance
on Kannada. I may also not have time to learn Kannada, but then Sanskrit
and Tamil will help me understand at least.
Shushanto Bose on Saturday, September 22, 2012 Sorry I did not see this message earlier. Thank you Sujay. Just to let you
know, you should press the reply button next to one's comment, if you wish
to reply to them, and type in the box that appears. Otherwise they may
never learn of the reply. I only found this by utter chance. But thanks.
soulfoodvisnu on Thursday, September 27, 2012 I feel for everyone who has endured oppression. However, everyone commeting
has good points to make. For me, all the languages in all their wonder are
lovely. Anika has a good point. Shushanto also has a good point. I should
learn Punjabi, but in a short and busy life, I have only been able to learn
those most in direct for my life -- incl. Sanskrt, HIndi, English, but also
some Bengali, Malayaalam, Telugu, because of their cultural treasures.
Beautiful Bengali, yes. Love to all.
Subramanian Viswanath on Sunday, September 30, 2012 Vaikunta anubhavam! Really! God bless Jayashree!
Palani Palani on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 Science or Songs.. tamilians rock always.. the best in each field they
hold.. nobel price to oscar to bharat ratna.. from india tamils have got
more
Subramanian Viswanath on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 I just cannot, but agree with you!
Palani Palani on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 Still many more like mathmatician ramujam, chess viswanathan anand stands
unmatched for their brain... 3 nobel prizes for science tmails ahve won..
all say tamils are intelligent community in India
Palani Palani on Saturday, October 06, 2012 however tamlians achievements are unmatched... we did more for india to get
proud.. but tamils are not being respected in india for that
Revathi Jayaprakas on Thursday, October 11, 2012 Why so much tension in the air? This song is probably composed by various
ingenious artiste so that even we, people of the modern society, can have a
few moments of escape from the harsh reality of the world and just attain
bliss. Can't we all like just enjoy this composition as one rather than
dividing and conquering its uniqueness. The whole point to uploading the
music becomes irrelevant and is being ignored due to all these debates.
Revathi Jayaprakas on Thursday, October 11, 2012 I'm sorry. I am not like chiding anyone. But I just love this song and I
felt a bit of a sad tug in my heart when I see all these debates. Just
sharing what I feel. I hope I didn't offend anyone.
Mg Bhat on Monday, October 22, 2012 one of the most divine compositions and divine singing. I have heard it
repeatedly and enjoyed it. jagadodharana aaDisadalyashode| jagadodharana
maganendu tiLiyuta, magugaLa manikyana aDisyashode|| aNoraneeyana,
mahatomaheeyana aprameyana, aDisadaLyashode || paramapurushana,
paravaasudevana Purandara Vithalana aadisadaLyashode||
indian12american on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 seriously divine singing! jai sri Vishnu <3
akshay prabhu on Sunday, December 16, 2012 voice is awesome ,but Jayashree madam ,One thing i have to tell,u have
KILLED KANNADA.Please Learn Kannada and then sing .
shamanthjilla on Thursday, January 10, 2013 Hi. We, Indians that is, have been listening to her for years.
Mani Subramanian on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 If I had to listen only perfectly pronouced kananda krithis, I may have
heard no kannada krithis at all. I developed a love for Puranadara Dasa
Krithis having listented ot MS, MLV, Maharajapuram Santhanam etc. You
should thank their Yomen service to Purandara Dasa and Kannada kritis.
Troubador Rako on Friday, February 01, 2013 Lol, what's "Life of Pi"?
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